Episode 2: Government Shutdown and Mass Shootings
October 2, 2022
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In this episode of "The Three Guys" podcast, hosts Reuel Sample (editor-in-chief of the Wilmington Standard), Nick Craig (host of the Nick Craig Show), and Ben Schachtman (WHQR radio) convene to discuss two pressing issues: the ongoing government shutdown in the United States and the complex intersection of mental illness, gun control, and individual rights. The program opens with a thorough analysis of how the 2025 government shutdown differs from previous ones, particularly the 2018 event. The hosts emphasize a shift in public sentiment and political strategy, observing that, unlike before, there is less panic among the general population and more of an acceptance—or even indifference—to the shutdown. They dissect the role of both parties, discussing polls, messaging failures, and the broader implications for voter mobilization and upcoming elections. The conversation also touches on the evolving role of new media and the diminished influence of traditional outlets in shaping the narrative surrounding government actions.
Transitioning from politics, the podcast delves into the recent tragedies of mass shootings, focusing specifically on incidents that have affected their local region, such as the Southport, North Carolina, shooting by a former Marine. Through a sensitive exploration of these events, the hosts highlight the personal histories of the perpetrators, particularly the mental health struggles that can follow military service. They critique societal tendencies to stereotype veterans or focus only on identity factors, and instead urge a nuanced understanding of the trauma and isolation many individuals experience. The hosts also analyze the unpredictable influence of online communities, memes, and nihilistic digital subcultures on vulnerable young men, suggesting these trends can deepen alienation and contribute to violence irrespective of traditional political divisions.
Throughout their discussion, the three hosts challenge listeners to consider broader systemic questions about how society addresses mental illness, violence, and the rights of individuals versus collective safety. They reflect on the limitations of both legislative and cultural responses, expressing skepticism about whether partisan policy solutions alone can resolve these deeply rooted problems. By the episode’s close, the hosts call for more constructive and less polarized dialogue, emphasizing the importance of empathy, community engagement, and innovation in tackling what they agree is an "intractable problem." Their exchange is candid, reflective, and occasionally light-hearted, underscoring the gravity of the topics while also recognizing the humanity and resilience of their local community.
Reuel Sample is the Editor-in-Chief of The Wilmington Standard. A graduate of Grove City College and Princeton Theological Seminary, he has served as both a Presbyterian Pastor and a Navy Chaplain. He is the product of a classical liberal arts education combined with real world experience in politics and business and conservative Christian worldview firmly rooted in the Reformed tradition. He is the host of several podcasts including the NHC GOP Podcast, the Pastor's Voice, and co-hosts the Nikki and Reuel Podcast Experience. An avid sailor, he has sailed around the world as a youth and to the Azores as a teen as well as extensive trips up and down the east coast of the United States. He is honored to be married to his wife Pam and makes his home in Wilmington, NC.
Ben Schachtman is a journalist and editor with a focus on local government accountability. He began reporting for Port City Daily in the Wilmington area in 2016 and took over as managing editor there in 2018. He’s a graduate of Rutgers College and later received his MA from NYU and his PhD from SUNY-Stony Brook, both in English Literature. He loves spending time with his wife and playing rock'n'roll very loudly. You can reach him at
Nick Craig is the creator and host of The Nick Craig Show, a daily podcast and broadcast known for sharp insight and bold commentary on politics, media, and news in North Carolina and beyond. Nick’s broadcasting career began in 2015 with a show focused on political issues in higher education, and since then he has worked on both the 2016 and 2020 Donald Trump campaigns, served as chairman of the Lower Cape Fear Young Republicans, and sat on the executive board of the North Carolina GOP. In addition to his radio work, Nick enjoys gaming, technology, and exploring local restaurants, and he is also the host of the Carolina Journal News Hour on WBT Radio in Charlotte.